Robbiee at 15:45:19 on 15/07:

Attackers should have advantage always , so if you train bgs for attack , and shoot 60k bullets you should kill your target without any problem , exept if he is full deff , bf kills sucks...Its about 1 mounth of ranking , spent money on dcs etc , and for what?For dying in one single click and all again from Soldier or Aso...So , advantage to attackers , and lets strategy wins (balls for attack = win) ty o/

Jordyrp at 16:37:47 on 15/07:

True, versions are getting way too short with some fams taking 10 bloods and then still secret bloods/non shooting pacts, over and over again every version.

Nakketikker at 16:33:25 on 15/07:
huggers isnt wrong version are too short old days version alsted 9 months no early wars that is whyat this game needs, if you guys can't have the patience with trigger happy hands your fault ;)

Jordyrp at 16:26:09 on 15/07:


Cause everyone was begging for change, there are too many people for everyone to be satisfied with 1 system

Robbiee at 16:24:41 on 15/07:

Last version was the best KA , I don't know why they change things -.- from good to bad , and from bad to worse...

Arcanine at 16:23:00 on 15/07:


Sorry, doesnt work that way. I also found another interesting result in my next 20k attempt but gonna test it 1 more time before I post it here:P

It's a very,very strange result

Amos Infinity at 16:20:50 on 15/07:
prolly ur bg setup is wrong,u used 2 att bg to kill a brug whereelse the other acct have 3 set bg,i kill a chief while im lc and survive while the other party bullets is higher than me, i think bg setup is important in this game just my 10 cent

Arcanine at 15:13:33 on 15/07:
You were driving around town as you saw ****speeding around town in a shiny new motor - you decided to give chase!
You tossed 3 molotovs at the car, exploding the engine!
You duck behind the wall of a nearby garage as ***** pulls a Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum out and whirls around and pulls the trigger...
***** suffered but is still alive.
Your enemy tried to strike back, his bullets found their way through your body, but you survived.
2 of your guards were slaughtered in the counterattack!

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I shot 20k to test the backfire. My target had same bacfkire so I got 20k bullets back. Results.. defender has 65 health left. Ok nothing weird.

I had 39 HEALTH left after receiving 20k backfire. So even 40k would have killed me. Easily.

Both are Brugs and exactly same RP. However I have 200k(!!!!!) more bullets in stock and was capo.

So even with 200k more bullets in stock I get killed with 40k backfire.

We both had 3 defensive bodyguards and Vic+Ike trained on attack.

Backfire is fucked. Bigtime.

Arcanine at 15:58:55 on 15/07:

It's never fair that 1 of the players has a HUGE advantage simply because he is either defending or attacking. They should just compare both accounts and then decide who is worthy of 'winning' the battle. Who presses on the Kill button first shouldnt matter too much.

Robbiee at 15:56:42 on 15/07:

Ok , put bgs full deff and you will survive , im against backfire , if someone attack you and you are full deff you survive , and go safehouse or buy blood what ever you live...And btw im talking of shooting the same rank (Chief - Chief , Brug - Brug) not above...

Robbiee at 15:56:42 on 15/07:

Ok , put bgs full deff and you will survive , im against backfire , if someone attack you and you are full deff you survive , and go safehouse or buy blood what ever you live...And btw im talking of shooting the same rank (Chief - Chief , Brug - Brug) not above...

Anonymous at 15:53:19 on 15/07:
Both attacking is not possible...someone has to defend and therefor he should have the same chance like the attacker.

Anonymous at 15:49:36 on 15/07:

That statement goes both ways...defenders have ranked for 1 month and than be killed in 1 click.

Anonymous at 15:49:36 on 15/07:

That statement goes both ways...defenders have ranked for 1 month and than be killed in 1 click.

Robbiee at 15:45:19 on 15/07:
about 1 mounth of ranking , spent money on dcs etc , and for what?For dying in one single click and all again from Soldier or Aso...So , advantage to attackers , and lets strategy wins (balls for attack = win) ty o/

Arcanine at 15:30:48 on 15/07:

Maybe but when I have a MUCH stronger account like in my kill attempt I expect to survive and certainly not die of 40k backfire. WIth 20k I didnt do any damage, not even kill a bodyguard but would have gotten lethal backfire back if my target had double backfire.

Like I said when I have 200k more bullets in stock I expect to survive backfire of the much weaker target.

I also found the reason why we saw backfire kills after 3 bodyguards were killed and target didnt come online..however I'll just report it to the devs. I'd really recommend no wars.

Anonymous at 15:27:25 on 15/07:
shooting should be a gamble where you don't know if you survive or not, atleast if you shoot face to face, without carkill and preshoot.
Last versions people complained that there was nearly no backfire and now there are complains that every 4th kill is a backfire one. Actually i think everyone should have atleast minor chances to die regardless of rp, bulletcount and bulletshot. Even 1 bullet should have a chance to kill, a very small chance but a chance. Defending and Attacking should be atleast 1:1 maybe with random mods...like at day time attacking gets a slight mod at night defending is better.
Than we would have more wars, were people can actually react.