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This night we saw a major change to the game. From now on you will only gain rankprogress from busting if you have under 500 booze/narc attempts.
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Hello community,
We were all aware of the problems related to Jail abuse and we wanted to act into it without punishing the ones that really like to bust.
We've made a decision and at the moment:
- Jail bustouts will keep giving you RP ONLY if you have less than 500 booze/narcs attempts
With this decision, busters can keep being busters while having background lackeys and do full time buster is no longer possible.
Keeping in mind, that bustouts do make your account stronger in many other situations, but you will no longer win rank from it.
This decision has immediate effect and therefore it also applies to all bustouts of the past, the users with more than 500 Booze/Narcs attempts have lost all their rankpoints given by bustouts.
We think it is a fair solution and it keeps the game going on without any hard punishment.
Hope you enjoy, there are more changes to come within this week!
We are working on game balance and adapting city maps and kill skill.
o/
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THIS ACTION WILL NOT BE REMOVED/CONSIDERED, please avoid spamming e-mail or #help.
It's a major good and the real abusers were expecting it.
We were all aware of the problems related to Jail abuse and we wanted to act into it without punishing the ones that really like to bust.
We've made a decision and at the moment:
- Jail bustouts will keep giving you RP ONLY if you have less than 500 booze/narcs attempts
With this decision, busters can keep being busters while having background lackeys and do full time buster is no longer possible.
Keeping in mind, that bustouts do make your account stronger in many other situations, but you will no longer win rank from it.
This decision has immediate effect and therefore it also applies to all bustouts of the past, the users with more than 500 Booze/Narcs attempts have lost all their rankpoints given by bustouts.
We think it is a fair solution and it keeps the game going on without any hard punishment.
Hope you enjoy, there are more changes to come within this week!
We are working on game balance and adapting city maps and kill skill.
o/
----
THIS ACTION WILL NOT BE REMOVED/CONSIDERED, please avoid spamming e-mail or #help.
It's a major good and the real abusers were expecting it.
ElMariachi` (16:20:20 - 14-01)
Anonymous (16:14:10 - 14-01)
Grannqe` at 16:11:55 on 14/01:
wasn't excepting less from this kind of crew i made 10k bos manual now they are useless xD
wasn't excepting less from this kind of crew i made 10k bos manual now they are useless xD
Lol, sure you did.
Grannqe` (16:11:55 - 14-01)
wasn't excepting less from this kind of crew i made 10k bos manual now they are useless xD
anonymous (15:48:33 - 14-01)
Anonymous at 09:45:14 on 14/01:
No, they won't. Manual rankers who did busts will suffer. Busters won't have 500 b/n attempts anyway. Not at this point of game, anyway.
Can anyone explain why doing crimes and car nicks is completely left out of the equation?
anonymous at 09:04:00 on 14/01:
- manual busters will suffer.
- manual busters will suffer.
No, they won't. Manual rankers who did busts will suffer. Busters won't have 500 b/n attempts anyway. Not at this point of game, anyway.
Can anyone explain why doing crimes and car nicks is completely left out of the equation?
Next time - quote both lines minus AND plus
- manual busters will suffer
+ many manual busters do not want to rank anyway - easier and cheaper to bust
Anonymous (15:26:20 - 14-01)
Solstice at 14:58:59 on 14/01:
They could. People used to travel for b/n runs when it was all manual, so the money got distributed more evenly. You could easily give people an incentive to travel again by making group crimes more profitable when you travel to certain places in the same way b/n was more profitable at certain places. You could think of many examples to do so.
Give a higher succeed percentage for doing heists/oc/moc at a certain place. Make this visible in sort off the same way you make b/n prices visible. This could swap every half hour, or you could just base it on the amount of times people did group crimes in one place that day. F.e. there were a lot of group crimes in detroit, so the chance to succeed is lowest there(everyone already got their shit nicked obviously). In Corleone there was hardly any group crime at all, so the chance to succeed is higher there.
You could even make some sort of ingame crowd and federal banks etc. who's pockets and safes get depleted as there are more group crimes in that certain city. Would make it a hell of a lot more interactive again in one swoop too.
Fenrir at 14:35:37 on 14/01:
PS: Admins cant do anything about that. Imo some spots should be better than others, ranking quick and going up first should be beneficial. But ofc, some spots like poker in the hands of a decent fam can be overpowered. I'd say 5% Poker Basement is Detroit is enough. Additionally 3 versions ago we were in Baltimore alongside some other big fams, then poker balti was #2 spot in the game. So if some fams actually plan where to go up etc well, agrees on sharing and brings a big amount of players to a certain city its bound to be profitable.
PS: Admins cant do anything about that. Imo some spots should be better than others, ranking quick and going up first should be beneficial. But ofc, some spots like poker in the hands of a decent fam can be overpowered. I'd say 5% Poker Basement is Detroit is enough. Additionally 3 versions ago we were in Baltimore alongside some other big fams, then poker balti was #2 spot in the game. So if some fams actually plan where to go up etc well, agrees on sharing and brings a big amount of players to a certain city its bound to be profitable.
They could. People used to travel for b/n runs when it was all manual, so the money got distributed more evenly. You could easily give people an incentive to travel again by making group crimes more profitable when you travel to certain places in the same way b/n was more profitable at certain places. You could think of many examples to do so.
Give a higher succeed percentage for doing heists/oc/moc at a certain place. Make this visible in sort off the same way you make b/n prices visible. This could swap every half hour, or you could just base it on the amount of times people did group crimes in one place that day. F.e. there were a lot of group crimes in detroit, so the chance to succeed is lowest there(everyone already got their shit nicked obviously). In Corleone there was hardly any group crime at all, so the chance to succeed is higher there.
You could even make some sort of ingame crowd and federal banks etc. who's pockets and safes get depleted as there are more group crimes in that certain city. Would make it a hell of a lot more interactive again in one swoop too.
That actually sounds like a crazy good idea, get to kcode with it.
Anonymous (15:02:19 - 14-01)
Solstice at 14:58:59 on 14/01:
They could. People used to travel for b/n runs when it was all manual, so the money got distributed more evenly. You could easily give people an incentive to travel again by making group crimes more profitable when you travel to certain places in the same way b/n was more profitable at certain places. You could think of many examples to do so.
Give a higher succeed percentage for doing heists/oc/moc at a certain place. Make this visible in sort off the same way you make b/n prices visible. This could swap every half hour, or you could just base it on the amount of times people did group crimes in one place that day. F.e. there were a lot of group crimes in detroit, so the chance to succeed is lowest there(everyone already got their shit nicked obviously). In Corleone there was hardly any group crime at all, so the chance to succeed is higher there.
You could even make some sort of ingame crowd and federal banks etc. who's pockets and safes get depleted as there are more group crimes in that certain city. Would make it a hell of a lot more interactive again in one swoop too.
Fenrir at 14:35:37 on 14/01:
PS: Admins cant do anything about that. Imo some spots should be better than others, ranking quick and going up first should be beneficial. But ofc, some spots like poker in the hands of a decent fam can be overpowered. I'd say 5% Poker Basement is Detroit is enough. Additionally 3 versions ago we were in Baltimore alongside some other big fams, then poker balti was #2 spot in the game. So if some fams actually plan where to go up etc well, agrees on sharing and brings a big amount of players to a certain city its bound to be profitable.
PS: Admins cant do anything about that. Imo some spots should be better than others, ranking quick and going up first should be beneficial. But ofc, some spots like poker in the hands of a decent fam can be overpowered. I'd say 5% Poker Basement is Detroit is enough. Additionally 3 versions ago we were in Baltimore alongside some other big fams, then poker balti was #2 spot in the game. So if some fams actually plan where to go up etc well, agrees on sharing and brings a big amount of players to a certain city its bound to be profitable.
They could. People used to travel for b/n runs when it was all manual, so the money got distributed more evenly. You could easily give people an incentive to travel again by making group crimes more profitable when you travel to certain places in the same way b/n was more profitable at certain places. You could think of many examples to do so.
Give a higher succeed percentage for doing heists/oc/moc at a certain place. Make this visible in sort off the same way you make b/n prices visible. This could swap every half hour, or you could just base it on the amount of times people did group crimes in one place that day. F.e. there were a lot of group crimes in detroit, so the chance to succeed is lowest there(everyone already got their shit nicked obviously). In Corleone there was hardly any group crime at all, so the chance to succeed is higher there.
You could even make some sort of ingame crowd and federal banks etc. who's pockets and safes get depleted as there are more group crimes in that certain city. Would make it a hell of a lot more interactive again in one swoop too.
Solstice (14:58:59 - 14-01)
Fenrir at 14:35:37 on 14/01:
PS: Admins cant do anything about that. Imo some spots should be better than others, ranking quick and going up first should be beneficial. But ofc, some spots like poker in the hands of a decent fam can be overpowered. I'd say 5% Poker Basement is Detroit is enough. Additionally 3 versions ago we were in Baltimore alongside some other big fams, then poker balti was #2 spot in the game. So if some fams actually plan where to go up etc well, agrees on sharing and brings a big amount of players to a certain city its bound to be profitable.
PS: Admins cant do anything about that. Imo some spots should be better than others, ranking quick and going up first should be beneficial. But ofc, some spots like poker in the hands of a decent fam can be overpowered. I'd say 5% Poker Basement is Detroit is enough. Additionally 3 versions ago we were in Baltimore alongside some other big fams, then poker balti was #2 spot in the game. So if some fams actually plan where to go up etc well, agrees on sharing and brings a big amount of players to a certain city its bound to be profitable.
They could. People used to travel for b/n runs when it was all manual, so the money got distributed more evenly. You could easily give people an incentive to travel again by making group crimes more profitable when you travel to certain places in the same way b/n was more profitable at certain places. You could think of many examples to do so.
Give a higher succeed percentage for doing heists/oc/moc at a certain place. Make this visible in sort off the same way you make b/n prices visible. This could swap every half hour, or you could just base it on the amount of times people did group crimes in one place that day. F.e. there were a lot of group crimes in detroit, so the chance to succeed is lowest there(everyone already got their shit nicked obviously). In Corleone there was hardly any group crime at all, so the chance to succeed is higher there.
You could even make some sort of ingame crowd and federal banks etc. who's pockets and safes get depleted as there are more group crimes in that certain city. Would make it a hell of a lot more interactive again in one swoop too.
Solstice (14:44:09 - 14-01)
Anonymous at 14:15:38 on 14/01:
I agree on this whole update and the timing on the update aswell. I'm probably the only one who does. Sure it may affect a few manual players and sorry for that. I do believe most people with 7k busts have used a script to do so.
The only thing that hits me to the shins is that admins claim everyone has equal chances again, while this punishment mainly has affected Faffie like players and friends from that family, such as some Gambinos and Lucchese players. Meanwhile the old school way of scripting completely gets ignored by admins and those are all page 1 now.
To even the playing field for legit players those players should be punished too (hell, all scripters should get akilled, from both sides)
I agree on this whole update and the timing on the update aswell. I'm probably the only one who does. Sure it may affect a few manual players and sorry for that. I do believe most people with 7k busts have used a script to do so.
The only thing that hits me to the shins is that admins claim everyone has equal chances again, while this punishment mainly has affected Faffie like players and friends from that family, such as some Gambinos and Lucchese players. Meanwhile the old school way of scripting completely gets ignored by admins and those are all page 1 now.
To even the playing field for legit players those players should be punished too (hell, all scripters should get akilled, from both sides)
Any halfdecent buster can make 7k busts in this timeframe with his eyes closed. All you need is a good friendlist, ray special trained and some time on your hands.
Anonymous at 14:32:08 on 14/01:
+1
Also funny thing is that KCode was former known as trepa. trepa had his own script and made alot of money doing this. How can someone like that be an high admin off the game he cheated on ?
VincentG at 14:12:17 on 14/01:
The thing is, the RL money I spent on buy out cash could have went to bullets. That's what pisses me off the most. Yes, it is my choice to spend RL money, but what I do with my ing money is based on the guidelines set forth at the time of RESET. These changes could have been made a week ago BEFORE I spent so much time and money on busting. I'm not upset with anyone but the ones that are making the decisions overseeing this game. They are running a business, while it be a computer game, its still a business, and running it THIS way is incredibly unprofessional and BAD business..
Anonymous at 14:05:24 on 14/01:
Right!
Which real buster likes to rank? No one!
Remember real busters usualy got donations, sometimes even extremely much; some versions ago the #1 buster was #1 in bullets as well ;) There was no use for them to do any crime 'case the community took care of them.
I'm definatly not donating any swindler that simpy puts '100% busting' on his profile, and i believe i am not the only one.
Anyway, its true, its sad for the handful (i really don't believe there are much more) players that played 100% manual (again: exclusive lackeys!) and made rank from busting. But also, i don't believe a manual player will have made 500 b/n runs yet... en for sure not a (old school) buster.
For all those whiners: Stop crying like babies...you still have your (mostly gained with your scripts) bo's amount, for sure the #1 buster this version won't be a real buster (because they quit busting since the rp is removed) Be happy that you all arent banned.
Also: stop whining because 'you did this all to get your family up'. The first fams will only be delayed, so what? The (real) money that you put in your account? Thats only a big LOL worth, its your own choise.
Last but not least: blaming admins for the lackeys in jail: another big LOL. It gives everyone the chance to bust, they are not there to feed the scripters.
Have a good day all o/
Anonymous at 09:45:14 on 14/01:
No, they won't. Manual rankers who did busts will suffer. Busters won't have 500 b/n attempts anyway. Not at this point of game, anyway.
Can anyone explain why doing crimes and car nicks is completely left out of the equation?
anonymous at 09:04:00 on 14/01:
- manual busters will suffer.
- manual busters will suffer.
No, they won't. Manual rankers who did busts will suffer. Busters won't have 500 b/n attempts anyway. Not at this point of game, anyway.
Can anyone explain why doing crimes and car nicks is completely left out of the equation?
Right!
Which real buster likes to rank? No one!
Remember real busters usualy got donations, sometimes even extremely much; some versions ago the #1 buster was #1 in bullets as well ;) There was no use for them to do any crime 'case the community took care of them.
I'm definatly not donating any swindler that simpy puts '100% busting' on his profile, and i believe i am not the only one.
Anyway, its true, its sad for the handful (i really don't believe there are much more) players that played 100% manual (again: exclusive lackeys!) and made rank from busting. But also, i don't believe a manual player will have made 500 b/n runs yet... en for sure not a (old school) buster.
For all those whiners: Stop crying like babies...you still have your (mostly gained with your scripts) bo's amount, for sure the #1 buster this version won't be a real buster (because they quit busting since the rp is removed) Be happy that you all arent banned.
Also: stop whining because 'you did this all to get your family up'. The first fams will only be delayed, so what? The (real) money that you put in your account? Thats only a big LOL worth, its your own choise.
Last but not least: blaming admins for the lackeys in jail: another big LOL. It gives everyone the chance to bust, they are not there to feed the scripters.
Have a good day all o/
+1
Also funny thing is that KCode was former known as trepa. trepa had his own script and made alot of money doing this. How can someone like that be an high admin off the game he cheated on ?
That is, if any of that stuff is even true (and having been on the receiving end of weird rumours in the past, I know it's usually bullshit anyway.)
Anonymous at 12:47:41 on 14/01:
Well the people that were doing those bust outs all came from just a hand full of families, now we see the regular scripters on top again but they never get akilled anymore. For example Nokia with 80% on time has no busts but managed to stay in front on page 2, above a lot of bust maniacs. Pure scripting is rewarded either way.
Next to that the game is already out of balance since 4 big groups of Turkish families / alliances have already claimed and closed the only city that makes money: Detroit. Next to that their scripts didn't bust and are mlw all on the top page. So this fix has just lead to the next couple of scripters on top and the structural problem is this game: mass pacting/ mass blooding / mass alliances in combination with mass money in Detroit has become bigger than ever.
KCode at 12:13:55 on 14/01:
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Fenrir at 10:25:55 on 14/01:
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Well the people that were doing those bust outs all came from just a hand full of families, now we see the regular scripters on top again but they never get akilled anymore. For example Nokia with 80% on time has no busts but managed to stay in front on page 2, above a lot of bust maniacs. Pure scripting is rewarded either way.
Next to that the game is already out of balance since 4 big groups of Turkish families / alliances have already claimed and closed the only city that makes money: Detroit. Next to that their scripts didn't bust and are mlw all on the top page. So this fix has just lead to the next couple of scripters on top and the structural problem is this game: mass pacting/ mass blooding / mass alliances in combination with mass money in Detroit has become bigger than ever.
Answer to the last part:
While Detroit makes alot of money, certain fams wont really be able to use the crazy spots aswell as others. Eitherways claiming beforehand is rather gay, first come first served imo. Generally fams would dislike that kind of behaviour, so while having a possible good cashflow in the start can be worth it, it has its cons aswell since it would generate some dislike for these fams(and contenders see them as threats).
An example would not be last version, but the one before that. Justice were in control of pokerspot then, but i didnt see them play any aggressive or have any particularly sick accounts.
Anyways it would be alot of ways to deal with these spots. Organized raiding would be the most civilized response. And ofcourse there are other alternatives out there, but im not gonna mention them!
PS: Admins cant do anything about that. Imo some spots should be better than others, ranking quick and going up first should be beneficial. But ofc, some spots like poker in the hands of a decent fam can be overpowered. I'd say 5% Poker Basement is Detroit is enough. Additionally 3 versions ago we were in Baltimore alongside some other big fams, then poker balti was #2 spot in the game. So if some fams actually plan where to go up etc well, agrees on sharing and brings a big amount of players to a certain city its bound to be profitable.
Anonymous (14:32:08 - 14-01)
VincentG at 14:12:17 on 14/01:
The thing is, the RL money I spent on buy out cash could have went to bullets. That's what pisses me off the most. Yes, it is my choice to spend RL money, but what I do with my ing money is based on the guidelines set forth at the time of RESET. These changes could have been made a week ago BEFORE I spent so much time and money on busting. I'm not upset with anyone but the ones that are making the decisions overseeing this game. They are running a business, while it be a computer game, its still a business, and running it THIS way is incredibly unprofessional and BAD business..
Anonymous at 14:05:24 on 14/01:
Right!
Which real buster likes to rank? No one!
Remember real busters usualy got donations, sometimes even extremely much; some versions ago the #1 buster was #1 in bullets as well ;) There was no use for them to do any crime 'case the community took care of them.
I'm definatly not donating any swindler that simpy puts '100% busting' on his profile, and i believe i am not the only one.
Anyway, its true, its sad for the handful (i really don't believe there are much more) players that played 100% manual (again: exclusive lackeys!) and made rank from busting. But also, i don't believe a manual player will have made 500 b/n runs yet... en for sure not a (old school) buster.
For all those whiners: Stop crying like babies...you still have your (mostly gained with your scripts) bo's amount, for sure the #1 buster this version won't be a real buster (because they quit busting since the rp is removed) Be happy that you all arent banned.
Also: stop whining because 'you did this all to get your family up'. The first fams will only be delayed, so what? The (real) money that you put in your account? Thats only a big LOL worth, its your own choise.
Last but not least: blaming admins for the lackeys in jail: another big LOL. It gives everyone the chance to bust, they are not there to feed the scripters.
Have a good day all o/
Anonymous at 09:45:14 on 14/01:
No, they won't. Manual rankers who did busts will suffer. Busters won't have 500 b/n attempts anyway. Not at this point of game, anyway.
Can anyone explain why doing crimes and car nicks is completely left out of the equation?
anonymous at 09:04:00 on 14/01:
- manual busters will suffer.
- manual busters will suffer.
No, they won't. Manual rankers who did busts will suffer. Busters won't have 500 b/n attempts anyway. Not at this point of game, anyway.
Can anyone explain why doing crimes and car nicks is completely left out of the equation?
Right!
Which real buster likes to rank? No one!
Remember real busters usualy got donations, sometimes even extremely much; some versions ago the #1 buster was #1 in bullets as well ;) There was no use for them to do any crime 'case the community took care of them.
I'm definatly not donating any swindler that simpy puts '100% busting' on his profile, and i believe i am not the only one.
Anyway, its true, its sad for the handful (i really don't believe there are much more) players that played 100% manual (again: exclusive lackeys!) and made rank from busting. But also, i don't believe a manual player will have made 500 b/n runs yet... en for sure not a (old school) buster.
For all those whiners: Stop crying like babies...you still have your (mostly gained with your scripts) bo's amount, for sure the #1 buster this version won't be a real buster (because they quit busting since the rp is removed) Be happy that you all arent banned.
Also: stop whining because 'you did this all to get your family up'. The first fams will only be delayed, so what? The (real) money that you put in your account? Thats only a big LOL worth, its your own choise.
Last but not least: blaming admins for the lackeys in jail: another big LOL. It gives everyone the chance to bust, they are not there to feed the scripters.
Have a good day all o/
+1
Also funny thing is that KCode was former known as trepa. trepa had his own script and made alot of money doing this. How can someone like that be an high admin off the game he cheated on ?
Anonymous (14:15:38 - 14-01)
I agree on this whole update and the timing on the update aswell. I'm probably the only one who does. Sure it may affect a few manual players and sorry for that. I do believe most people with 7k busts have used a script to do so.
The only thing that hits me to the shins is that admins claim everyone has equal chances again, while this punishment mainly has affected Faffie like players and friends from that family, such as some Gambinos and Lucchese players. Meanwhile the old school way of scripting completely gets ignored by admins and those are all page 1 now.
To even the playing field for legit players those players should be punished too (hell, all scripters should get akilled, from both sides)
The only thing that hits me to the shins is that admins claim everyone has equal chances again, while this punishment mainly has affected Faffie like players and friends from that family, such as some Gambinos and Lucchese players. Meanwhile the old school way of scripting completely gets ignored by admins and those are all page 1 now.
To even the playing field for legit players those players should be punished too (hell, all scripters should get akilled, from both sides)
VincentG (14:12:17 - 14-01)
Anonymous at 14:05:24 on 14/01:
Right!
Which real buster likes to rank? No one!
Remember real busters usualy got donations, sometimes even extremely much; some versions ago the #1 buster was #1 in bullets as well ;) There was no use for them to do any crime 'case the community took care of them.
I'm definatly not donating any swindler that simpy puts '100% busting' on his profile, and i believe i am not the only one.
Anyway, its true, its sad for the handful (i really don't believe there are much more) players that played 100% manual (again: exclusive lackeys!) and made rank from busting. But also, i don't believe a manual player will have made 500 b/n runs yet... en for sure not a (old school) buster.
For all those whiners: Stop crying like babies...you still have your (mostly gained with your scripts) bo's amount, for sure the #1 buster this version won't be a real buster (because they quit busting since the rp is removed) Be happy that you all arent banned.
Also: stop whining because 'you did this all to get your family up'. The first fams will only be delayed, so what? The (real) money that you put in your account? Thats only a big LOL worth, its your own choise.
Last but not least: blaming admins for the lackeys in jail: another big LOL. It gives everyone the chance to bust, they are not there to feed the scripters.
Have a good day all o/
Anonymous at 09:45:14 on 14/01:
No, they won't. Manual rankers who did busts will suffer. Busters won't have 500 b/n attempts anyway. Not at this point of game, anyway.
Can anyone explain why doing crimes and car nicks is completely left out of the equation?
anonymous at 09:04:00 on 14/01:
- manual busters will suffer.
- manual busters will suffer.
No, they won't. Manual rankers who did busts will suffer. Busters won't have 500 b/n attempts anyway. Not at this point of game, anyway.
Can anyone explain why doing crimes and car nicks is completely left out of the equation?
Right!
Which real buster likes to rank? No one!
Remember real busters usualy got donations, sometimes even extremely much; some versions ago the #1 buster was #1 in bullets as well ;) There was no use for them to do any crime 'case the community took care of them.
I'm definatly not donating any swindler that simpy puts '100% busting' on his profile, and i believe i am not the only one.
Anyway, its true, its sad for the handful (i really don't believe there are much more) players that played 100% manual (again: exclusive lackeys!) and made rank from busting. But also, i don't believe a manual player will have made 500 b/n runs yet... en for sure not a (old school) buster.
For all those whiners: Stop crying like babies...you still have your (mostly gained with your scripts) bo's amount, for sure the #1 buster this version won't be a real buster (because they quit busting since the rp is removed) Be happy that you all arent banned.
Also: stop whining because 'you did this all to get your family up'. The first fams will only be delayed, so what? The (real) money that you put in your account? Thats only a big LOL worth, its your own choise.
Last but not least: blaming admins for the lackeys in jail: another big LOL. It gives everyone the chance to bust, they are not there to feed the scripters.
Have a good day all o/
Anonymous (14:05:24 - 14-01)
Anonymous at 09:45:14 on 14/01:
No, they won't. Manual rankers who did busts will suffer. Busters won't have 500 b/n attempts anyway. Not at this point of game, anyway.
Can anyone explain why doing crimes and car nicks is completely left out of the equation?
anonymous at 09:04:00 on 14/01:
- manual busters will suffer.
- manual busters will suffer.
No, they won't. Manual rankers who did busts will suffer. Busters won't have 500 b/n attempts anyway. Not at this point of game, anyway.
Can anyone explain why doing crimes and car nicks is completely left out of the equation?
Right!
Which real buster likes to rank? No one!
Remember real busters usualy got donations, sometimes even extremely much; some versions ago the #1 buster was #1 in bullets as well ;) There was no use for them to do any crime 'case the community took care of them.
I'm definatly not donating any swindler that simpy puts '100% busting' on his profile, and i believe i am not the only one.
Anyway, its true, its sad for the handful (i really don't believe there are much more) players that played 100% manual (again: exclusive lackeys!) and made rank from busting. But also, i don't believe a manual player will have made 500 b/n runs yet... en for sure not a (old school) buster.
For all those whiners: Stop crying like babies...you still have your (mostly gained with your scripts) bo's amount, for sure the #1 buster this version won't be a real buster (because they quit busting since the rp is removed) Be happy that you all arent banned.
Also: stop whining because 'you did this all to get your family up'. The first fams will only be delayed, so what? The (real) money that you put in your account? Thats only a big LOL worth, its your own choise.
Last but not least: blaming admins for the lackeys in jail: another big LOL. It gives everyone the chance to bust, they are not there to feed the scripters.
Have a good day all o/
Anonymous (14:04:43 - 14-01)
Fenrir at 10:25:55 on 14/01:
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
Totally agree with Fenrir. This way you'll only have to log in once every hour and you'll end up on the first page.
VincentG (13:52:58 - 14-01)
Aart at 13:48:45 on 14/01:
timing sucks monkey balls, update is totally legit.
to the scripters: stop crying, be glad you did not get akilled.
to the unfair punished manual players: bad luck, suck it up.
timing sucks monkey balls, update is totally legit.
to the scripters: stop crying, be glad you did not get akilled.
to the unfair punished manual players: bad luck, suck it up.
Sucking it up is hard to do, but I'm doing it. Not easy losing 41% RP and being called a cheater because I was on the first page though ^^
Aart (13:48:45 - 14-01)
timing sucks monkey balls, update is totally legit.
to the scripters: stop crying, be glad you did not get akilled.
to the unfair punished manual players: bad luck, suck it up.
to the scripters: stop crying, be glad you did not get akilled.
to the unfair punished manual players: bad luck, suck it up.
Anonymous (13:44:37 - 14-01)
zaba at 13:18:09 on 14/01:
lucchese go cryyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Anonymous at 12:47:41 on 14/01:
Well the people that were doing those bust outs all came from just a hand full of families, now we see the regular scripters on top again but they never get akilled anymore. For example Nokia with 80% on time has no busts but managed to stay in front on page 2, above a lot of bust maniacs. Pure scripting is rewarded either way.
Next to that the game is already out of balance since 4 big groups of Turkish families / alliances have already claimed and closed the only city that makes money: Detroit. Next to that their scripts didn't bust and are mlw all on the top page. So this fix has just lead to the next couple of scripters on top and the structural problem is this game: mass pacting/ mass blooding / mass alliances in combination with mass money in Detroit has become bigger than ever.
KCode at 12:13:55 on 14/01:
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Fenrir at 10:25:55 on 14/01:
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Well the people that were doing those bust outs all came from just a hand full of families, now we see the regular scripters on top again but they never get akilled anymore. For example Nokia with 80% on time has no busts but managed to stay in front on page 2, above a lot of bust maniacs. Pure scripting is rewarded either way.
Next to that the game is already out of balance since 4 big groups of Turkish families / alliances have already claimed and closed the only city that makes money: Detroit. Next to that their scripts didn't bust and are mlw all on the top page. So this fix has just lead to the next couple of scripters on top and the structural problem is this game: mass pacting/ mass blooding / mass alliances in combination with mass money in Detroit has become bigger than ever.
lucchese go cryyyyyyyyyyyyyy
lol first of all where do you see me favour 1 family? I said one way of scripting was busted (which included lucchese) and that the game is still out of balance because now only the scripts from one side are on top. Better yet, Lucchese was the family that wanted to downscale so the influence of them would've been less big than having a whole Turk side who never shoot at each other and will try to close to version with as much Turkish families alive on top of the rp now.
In my opinion they should just akill all those who cheated on both sides. Now one side is badly favoured over the other and the side favoured was already going to be the bigger alliance side. My guess is that this'll be a very boring 1 sided version
NewYearpresent (13:41:57 - 14-01)
Fenrir didnt your family ruined the game ? you all did last version
we all could see your family used to be cheat
thx for fuck up this game
Fenrir didnt your family ruined the game ? you all did last version
we all could see your family used to be cheat
thx for fuck up this game
we all could see your family used to be cheat
thx for fuck up this game
VincentG at 13:33:45 on 14/01:
+1 The communication was poor and extremely unprofessional. I legitimately busted 20k+ out of jail with countless attempts. Dcs bought and sold to support the people running this game went to Ray level 10 special and MILLIONS of buy out cash (as I was competing for my family for that TOP spot and to get us off the ground). ALL the time I spent MANUALLY busting and running crime car lackeys, I could have been MANUALLY clicking to compete against the REAL scripts that are NOW dominating the top of the list (I do not believe all first page are cheats, but there are absolutely some there now). I ranked my ass off to stay in the 8-9 RP pos and this change at this stage of the game is sickening. If people were SO worried about "jail abuse" then look into their accounts better; shouldn't be THAT hard if you claim that the first 2 or 3 pages were abusing. Look at the accounts with 15k-75k busts and focus on catching them. At the same time, CAP the amount of RP gained to EXTREME EXPERT so it gives people a TARGET to bust to (I'd say remove RP IF this was LAST WEEK). While i too hope for longer versions and a fairer game, I think this action and the arrogance exhibited in the global message last night about "play fair" was again UNPROFESSIONAL and ignorant. Don't reset the game until these changes are SET in stone and announced. Why couldn't reset have waited a WEEK?! I understand money has to be made to support the people running it, but I feel taken advantage of. I apologize for the rant, but this is just completely unacceptable.
Solstice at 12:29:00 on 14/01:
Thing is you've hurt a lot of the players doing some manual work. I didn't do much on .com, but on .nl i sold 2 dc's for buy-out money and for clicklimit. I also put money in buy-outs and in Ray that i could've very well used for bullets and there have been credits going into crimes and car nicks that i wouldn't have used if i would've seen this coming. Luckily i didn't put that much time in and only got to 1000 busts or something. But other players that didn't do anything but lackey now have got an advantage over me moneywise.
Now i get that you can't change a million things at one. And if you had communicated this and would've told us this was coming from the getgo, most of us would've understood and wouldn't have wasted our time and money on it. But the communication has just been pisspoor. Which is a recurring theme.
KCode at 12:13:55 on 14/01:
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Fenrir at 10:25:55 on 14/01:
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Thing is you've hurt a lot of the players doing some manual work. I didn't do much on .com, but on .nl i sold 2 dc's for buy-out money and for clicklimit. I also put money in buy-outs and in Ray that i could've very well used for bullets and there have been credits going into crimes and car nicks that i wouldn't have used if i would've seen this coming. Luckily i didn't put that much time in and only got to 1000 busts or something. But other players that didn't do anything but lackey now have got an advantage over me moneywise.
Now i get that you can't change a million things at one. And if you had communicated this and would've told us this was coming from the getgo, most of us would've understood and wouldn't have wasted our time and money on it. But the communication has just been pisspoor. Which is a recurring theme.
+1 The communication was poor and extremely unprofessional. I legitimately busted 20k+ out of jail with countless attempts. Dcs bought and sold to support the people running this game went to Ray level 10 special and MILLIONS of buy out cash (as I was competing for my family for that TOP spot and to get us off the ground). ALL the time I spent MANUALLY busting and running crime car lackeys, I could have been MANUALLY clicking to compete against the REAL scripts that are NOW dominating the top of the list (I do not believe all first page are cheats, but there are absolutely some there now). I ranked my ass off to stay in the 8-9 RP pos and this change at this stage of the game is sickening. If people were SO worried about "jail abuse" then look into their accounts better; shouldn't be THAT hard if you claim that the first 2 or 3 pages were abusing. Look at the accounts with 15k-75k busts and focus on catching them. At the same time, CAP the amount of RP gained to EXTREME EXPERT so it gives people a TARGET to bust to (I'd say remove RP IF this was LAST WEEK). While i too hope for longer versions and a fairer game, I think this action and the arrogance exhibited in the global message last night about "play fair" was again UNPROFESSIONAL and ignorant. Don't reset the game until these changes are SET in stone and announced. Why couldn't reset have waited a WEEK?! I understand money has to be made to support the people running it, but I feel taken advantage of. I apologize for the rant, but this is just completely unacceptable.
Fenrir didnt your family ruined the game ? you all did last version
we all could see your family used to be cheat
thx for fuck up this game
VincentG (13:33:45 - 14-01)
Solstice at 12:29:00 on 14/01:
Thing is you've hurt a lot of the players doing some manual work. I didn't do much on .com, but on .nl i sold 2 dc's for buy-out money and for clicklimit. I also put money in buy-outs and in Ray that i could've very well used for bullets and there have been credits going into crimes and car nicks that i wouldn't have used if i would've seen this coming. Luckily i didn't put that much time in and only got to 1000 busts or something. But other players that didn't do anything but lackey now have got an advantage over me moneywise.
Now i get that you can't change a million things at one. And if you had communicated this and would've told us this was coming from the getgo, most of us would've understood and wouldn't have wasted our time and money on it. But the communication has just been pisspoor. Which is a recurring theme.
KCode at 12:13:55 on 14/01:
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Fenrir at 10:25:55 on 14/01:
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
I hate moves being done midway in versions, far too late to do something like this. If done before the version started id say it was a good move.
How do you rank manually now? Only b/n and group crimes? 2-3versions ago you made car/crime lackeys so quick its basically no point doing them. Many people enjoy putting time and dedication competing for #1. Ever since lackeys were put into jail, BOs has been OP. But when neither busting nor doing crimes/cars manually gives you any benefits generally active players will turn less active etc. I could be a top ranker playing from my phone with the current system.
It is true, changes midgame are always bad but in 2 bad situations, I'd prefer to chose this bad situation.
Seeing couple families up with days advantage again is way less healthier for the gameflow.
We are working in a total new dynamic game and that explains the problem at the moment, the current code doesn't allow much stuff to be added/changed without double work and that's the reason we decided to have a total remake done.
I understand and I don't like that lately the actions are all the same, something new is cool, gets abused, gets removed. That is not the right way, but it's the way to keep the game the most natural possible, without being the same guys abusing/exploiting all the way to the victory.
Once again, the only reason I am sorry is by the fact we didn't apply it earlier, but for now, I find it the right call and I assume the responsabilities of such as well.
Thing is you've hurt a lot of the players doing some manual work. I didn't do much on .com, but on .nl i sold 2 dc's for buy-out money and for clicklimit. I also put money in buy-outs and in Ray that i could've very well used for bullets and there have been credits going into crimes and car nicks that i wouldn't have used if i would've seen this coming. Luckily i didn't put that much time in and only got to 1000 busts or something. But other players that didn't do anything but lackey now have got an advantage over me moneywise.
Now i get that you can't change a million things at one. And if you had communicated this and would've told us this was coming from the getgo, most of us would've understood and wouldn't have wasted our time and money on it. But the communication has just been pisspoor. Which is a recurring theme.
+1 The communication was poor and extremely unprofessional. I legitimately busted 20k+ out of jail with countless attempts. Dcs bought and sold to support the people running this game went to Ray level 10 special and MILLIONS of buy out cash (as I was competing for my family for that TOP spot and to get us off the ground). ALL the time I spent MANUALLY busting and running crime car lackeys, I could have been MANUALLY clicking to compete against the REAL scripts that are NOW dominating the top of the list (I do not believe all first page are cheats, but there are absolutely some there now). I ranked my ass off to stay in the 8-9 RP pos and this change at this stage of the game is sickening. If people were SO worried about "jail abuse" then look into their accounts better; shouldn't be THAT hard if you claim that the first 2 or 3 pages were abusing. Look at the accounts with 15k-75k busts and focus on catching them. At the same time, CAP the amount of RP gained to EXTREME EXPERT so it gives people a TARGET to bust to (I'd say remove RP IF this was LAST WEEK). While i too hope for longer versions and a fairer game, I think this action and the arrogance exhibited in the global message last night about "play fair" was again UNPROFESSIONAL and ignorant. Don't reset the game until these changes are SET in stone and announced. Why couldn't reset have waited a WEEK?! I understand money has to be made to support the people running it, but I feel taken advantage of. I apologize for the rant, but this is just completely unacceptable.
- manual busters will suffer.
No, they won't. Manual rankers who did busts will suffer. Busters won't have 500 b/n attempts anyway. Not at this point of game, anyway.
Can anyone explain why doing crimes and car nicks is completely left out of the equation?
Right!
Which real buster likes to rank? No one!
Remember real busters usualy got donations, sometimes even extremely much; some versions ago the #1 buster was #1 in bullets as well ;) There was no use for them to do any crime 'case the community took care of them.
I'm definatly not donating any swindler that simpy puts '100% busting' on his profile, and i believe i am not the only one.
Anyway, its true, its sad for the handful (i really don't believe there are much more) players that played 100% manual (again: exclusive lackeys!) and made rank from busting. But also, i don't believe a manual player will have made 500 b/n runs yet... en for sure not a (old school) buster.
For all those whiners: Stop crying like babies...you still have your (mostly gained with your scripts) bo's amount, for sure the #1 buster this version won't be a real buster (because they quit busting since the rp is removed) Be happy that you all arent banned.
Also: stop whining because 'you did this all to get your family up'. The first fams will only be delayed, so what? The (real) money that you put in your account? Thats only a big LOL worth, its your own choise.
Last but not least: blaming admins for the lackeys in jail: another big LOL. It gives everyone the chance to bust, they are not there to feed the scripters.
Have a good day all o/
+1
Also funny thing is that KCode was former known as trepa. trepa had his own script and made alot of money doing this. How can someone like that be an high admin off the game he cheated on ?
eh you ever heard of big companies hiring hackers to improve their overall security ??